[ Kostos doesn't bear any mutilating scars so far as Iorveth' seen, but that's hardly a sure indicator. It can be many things. ]
All torture will end at some point. Usually with your death, whether you give the answers requested or not. It isn't a matter of the end result. It's the waiting of it.
[ because the end isn't now, and because time, logic and rational thought are of no meaning when everything you can understand is pain. making it through horrors that you can't avoid is just waiting, and that's be purpose of the elixir. ]
If they can last a week without begging for the antidote, they win. At least, in that trial. [ not the only one, but the one he wants to show gwen to make her understand what she's asking for. ]
[ His scars are more the mages with robes and sticks fighting warriors with swords and armor and the ability to take away their magic type than the prolonged and deliberate mutilation type. And all mages spend an alarming amount of time lucid in the Fade being tormented or manipulated by demons waiting for them to show a single moment of weakness, but they have other words for that.
It just sounds ridiculous. But he sighs and answers the actual question, sort of. ]
I do not know of any magic [ other than blood magic, possibly, hypothetically ] that causes that level of pain without inherently causing harm. Spirit damage may not leave marks, if someone is only worried about their looks, but it will kill you eventually. Spirits on this side of the Veil can evoke emotions or cause hallucinations, but you— [ maybe Kostos, because he's a snowflake, but fuck if he's going to offer to participate ] —would not have any control over how, and there are no spirits of physical pain. It is not something they understand.
If there is something alchemical, Beleth might know. Or Yseult. She is interested in some sort of widespread training.
[ it's cool, homeboy, he'll just ask rifter claus once his player gets their shit together and calculates reward ac for the last like 3 months. ANYWHO, Iorveth's frowning as he listens to Kostos' information. spirits and magic and all that are so far beyond what he's capable of besides, so even if it were an option, it's a moot point. ]
Not so much looks as functionality. [ but yeah, it'd probably be pretty traumatizing for gwen to have part of her beauty robbed from her. even if she isn't as culturally bound to it as elves tend to be. ] Permanently wounding a person to prepare them for torture is counter-productive. But attempting to teach someone to 'go to their happy place' without a visceral enough distraction to make it past is pointless.
[ meditating with nothing but minor annoyances is well and good, but the kind of real and arresting pain that comes from genuine torture is an entirely different experience. ]
I'll speak with Beleth, and perhaps the other one. Thank you, for sharing your knowledge.
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[ Kostos doesn't bear any mutilating scars so far as Iorveth' seen, but that's hardly a sure indicator. It can be many things. ]
All torture will end at some point. Usually with your death, whether you give the answers requested or not. It isn't a matter of the end result. It's the waiting of it.
[ because the end isn't now, and because time, logic and rational thought are of no meaning when everything you can understand is pain. making it through horrors that you can't avoid is just waiting, and that's be purpose of the elixir. ]
If they can last a week without begging for the antidote, they win. At least, in that trial. [ not the only one, but the one he wants to show gwen to make her understand what she's asking for. ]
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It just sounds ridiculous. But he sighs and answers the actual question, sort of. ]
I do not know of any magic [ other than blood magic, possibly, hypothetically ] that causes that level of pain without inherently causing harm. Spirit damage may not leave marks, if someone is only worried about their looks, but it will kill you eventually. Spirits on this side of the Veil can evoke emotions or cause hallucinations, but you— [ maybe Kostos, because he's a snowflake, but fuck if he's going to offer to participate ] —would not have any control over how, and there are no spirits of physical pain. It is not something they understand.
If there is something alchemical, Beleth might know. Or Yseult. She is interested in some sort of widespread training.
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Not so much looks as functionality. [ but yeah, it'd probably be pretty traumatizing for gwen to have part of her beauty robbed from her. even if she isn't as culturally bound to it as elves tend to be. ] Permanently wounding a person to prepare them for torture is counter-productive. But attempting to teach someone to 'go to their happy place' without a visceral enough distraction to make it past is pointless.
[ meditating with nothing but minor annoyances is well and good, but the kind of real and arresting pain that comes from genuine torture is an entirely different experience. ]
I'll speak with Beleth, and perhaps the other one. Thank you, for sharing your knowledge.