[Anders enjoys talking. But he also likes living, and saying things that may put that at risk does not quite line up with anything he likes.]

And what is destroyed, [he finally, very slowly says,] is sometimes deemed as too much of an effort to rebuild. Which does include trust, something valuable that should not be discarded quickly.

[There's a short pause.]

The situation is not simple or easy from any angle, and perhaps we'll be surprised in a pleasant way. I don't expect that we will, but my life has basically never gone as I expected.